Los Angeles, CA Full Disclosure Network® provides "the news behind the news" in this interview with Bruce Whitaker, a Fullerton City Council member, who explains his frustration with the City bureaucracy. He describes how his efforts to get to the truth were stonewalled when he got inaccurate or incomplete information from the City regarding the death of Kelly Thomas, a mentally ill homeless man, who was beaten to death by Fullerton Police officers.
Councilman Whitaker says the City officials should be held accountable when the government obstructs the flow of information to the City Council members who are their bosses. He says it is not OK for City employees to put out false reports and there should be consequences. He is calling for government transparency and for the City to make public the audio and video tapes of what took place during the beating of Kelly Thomas.
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Michael Stout Missouri
Posted: 03:20 pm [PST] on October 29 2011
Government Accountability should be what everybody in America wants!! Our Government is supposed to follow the Constitution and so is the States!!!! We as Citizens should be forever watchful of State and Governmet!!! For they will try to take control of Power over us as Citizens!!!! We have the Power over them and need to make it very clear that we are the ones who gives them any Power and we can take it away!!! The Constitution is very clear on the matter on who is the people who controls the laws and need to rain in Our Government!!! We are the Masters Not Them!!!
Pat Hamer Absolute Immunity victim
Posted: 09:40 am [PST] on October 26 2011
I should mention, thought the feds defrauded is, in the "cover-up" against us, Judge James Wagoner was admonished by the CJP.ca.gov see http://www.cjp.ca.gov/res/docs/public_admon/Wagoner_DO_9-13-11.pdf
I am the 2009 case, but he did it again to Penny Arnold, and he's still on the bench.
The point is, Penny Arnold and Myself have had a judge punished, and no civil right group such as this will give this case credence. It is the successful efforts that are hid by media, such as this that has a motive of ego or lack of understanding on how to use momentum to get the work done. I suspect that this site may also be now just a egomania or marketing for profit site. Momentum is a basic law that uses inertia to propel energy in order that energy is not wasted.
Until groups like this grab hold of inertia, our plight is wasted energy.
Pat Hamer Absolute Immunity victim
Posted: 09:39 am [PST] on October 26 2011
What you are saying is very bizarre, and unbelievable! Our America? How can that be? After all we have the 10 amendments and the 14th for a citizen to rest assured that he is safe. At least that was the case until 1795 when the 11th amendment basically barred suits that allege 42 USC 1983 or 1985 abuse of power under the color of law claims. Basically, it stems from 14th century dogma, “par en parem imperium non habet.” I’m not going to explain it because it is magically confounding and self deceiving! It is too big for our minds. After all, it has been hidden in the open for 250 years without much scrutiny, and it is the basis for all revolutions, and the cultivation of corruption that protects aristocrats, emperors, dictators, and now any U.S. employee of state, federal and local municipality by giving them “absolute immunity.” Though municipalities call it “qualified immunity,” all that is need is a Judge to “abuse his discretion” which also is non actionable as a Judge has absolute Immunity from corruption, Bogan v. Scott-Harris, or Stump v. Sparkmen. “Par en parem imperium non habet” was used to justify the inquisitions or despotic tortures in order “deter” people who objected to authority by using logic to do so.
While those on lists like these will give credence to what you are alleging, the first amendment is a deception that took the Soviets and Chinese almost a century to figure out. They had closed government, we had an open one. Our dissidents volunteer their plans, locations, and intent, under a foolish guise of freedom. Whereas, the Soviets and Chinese had search and destroy to find theirs.
The very act of exercising the First Amendment is an act of defeat. Redress of Grievance, defined by Webster alludes to the trouble right away. Redress of Grievance, results because the victim requiring the redress only requires it because he is so Emotionally distressed, that he sees no choice but to bring this grievance to the courts. As soon as you complain, you appear to be emotionally distressed. Officials taking the complaint, have learned that less work that pays the same can be done by discouraging “emotionally distressed” people from filing complaints. Thus, they created a system that is a booby trap designed to enhance the “emotional distress” a victim suffers. This causes them to bow out, or become enraged, or commit suicide, or the very stubborn are procedural instituted as “vexatious” or simply found in contempt, because “emotionally distressed” outbursts in court will result in Jail. Case closed, an now you will have your finances vacuumed from your life, and all you did was call 911, or file a suit.
We thought “redress of grievance” was constitutionally protected! It is not! It is the bullet in the head that stops those who have become emotionally distressed enough to redress a grievance. As soon as you open the door to redress, you are “shot in the head” by your emotional state. Its brilliantly diabolical way to ignore claims and work less, and extract revenues from the victims, who they would otherwise have no claim.
Do I have any basis to this theory? Well yes I do in fact.. Macias is a case in the Ninth circuit that shows how really sick officials “cause the murder” of emotionally disturbed crime victims who want the police to go out of their way and enforce restraining orders.
Estate of Macias v. Ihde, 219 F.3d 1018, 1028-29 (9th Cir. 2000):
The Appellants contend that the district court "fundamentally misconstrued" the constitutional deprivation at issue in this case. They maintain that the alleged constitutional deprivation occurred when the defendants failed to provide Mrs. Macias with equal police protection in the months leading up to her death. Their brief states: 35
The district court erred in determining that there was insufficient evidence of actual causation in part, by misconstruing [the Appellants'] constitutional injury as `murder' rather than `lack of equal protection.' By so doing, the court ignored the evidence that [the Appellees'] arbitrary failure to enforce the law caused [Mrs. Macias] to suffer not only her murder on April 15, 1996, but the three months of harassment, stalking, and death threats that proceeded it.
“…arbitrary failure to enforce the law caused [Mrs. Macias] to suffer not only her murder on April 15, 1996, but the three months of harassment, stalking, and death threats that proceeded it.
I emphasized the text showing that “arbitrary failure to enforce laws, according to the Ninth Circuit is the “cause for murder.” They made no mention of the actual assailant who was given liberty despite the rational basis that required them to make arrests. The case is not precedent to show cause on officials for “failing to prevent murder” but for “arbitrarily denying 14th amendment rights to crime victims.” Now we have a strong Constitutional Amendment called the Crime Victims bill of Rights, in state, and federal constitutions.
This hit home with me. My wife and I were being stalked and threatened with murder, it is a very long story, and I will not waste time rehashing the details. But though 5 separate families won restraining orders after evidentiary hearings, so we were not irrational.
Basically the county was allowing this man to assault crime victims and vandalize their property, ours was about 7000 dollars damage, and it was witnessed, and he told people he did it, and his wife told the arresting officer why he did it.
The threats and assaults were video taped. One incident when he was ordered to say 300 feet away shows him missing me in his truck by only about a foot or less.
So what, I guess, A police officer stated in a report that I had a web site that insinuated that El Dorado Officials turned a blind eye to murder victims, and he stated, “based upon these facts, I will not make an arrest.”
So then we get to federal court and attempt to get a federal injunction from Magistrate Brennan, but he denied it without mentioning our controlling law, basically with a boiler plate basis of standard “justiciability” for denying injunctions. He weighed the perps right to murder over our right to not be protected from violence, Gonzales v. Castle Rock and felt that preventing a potential murderer would far out weigh the reasonableness of protecting my wife and I.
I was shocked to find that a few weeks within his decision, another Pro Se litigant was claiming “arbitrary” abuse by the same defendants I was suing, Neves, Pierson, Wagoner, inter alia.
But what was shocking was the other litigant was being threatened with murder also by a neighbor.
Like I said, within a few weeks of Magistrate Brennan’s denial of our claim, Mr. John O’Sullivan was murdered, and Brennan was the Judge that stood in the way of his life!
So, when I use the Ninth Circuit Macias case and say that officials who are being publicly criticized for not enforcing the law, all the officials have to do is continue arbitrary “singling out” disgruntled crime victims, and let nature take its course, and voila, they often get murdered, and now nobody is exposing or making public statements about their misdeeds.
Sounds very paranoid and irrational to make such claims! But the Ninth Circuit pointed this out in Macias, so the premise is cogent, and the conclusions that result in death, the only issue that lies unclear is intent, and that will never need be reviewed, except that malice is the willful ignoring of the law in a pattern of conduct, and could be inferred I suppose.
So…I think if I heard someone stating what I just stated, I would assume they were off their rocker, but facts is facts! Is this some sort of knowable perfect crime, or just serious coincidences that lead to murder?
Pat Hamer
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Taylor Moore Joliet, IL
Posted: 06:23 pm [PST] on October 19 2011
Council member Bruce Whitaker is a very good man. We need more men like him in leadership roles. Bravo to this very fine man. Give 'em hell Bruce!
Rick B. Yelm WA.
Posted: 11:57 am [PST] on October 19 2011
I feel that the councilman may gain "public" backing for re-election BUT.... He will have to fight the governmental machine that is the police force and their cronies.
It is time that the brutality of any and ALL police STOP and they be held accountable for their actions. I for one am as afraid of the police and the Crips or Bloods!!! They all have a gun and are known to beat people to DEATH!