ACLU Loses Fight To Silence Dissent #VB115

September 30, 201210 Comments

Full Disclosure Network(R) presents a 12 minute video news blog featuring Paul Orfanedes of Judicial Watch who explains how a Superior Court Judge Terry A. Green allowed the ACLU to intervene   in the Case Sturgeon vs City of Los Angeles( BC484190) but did not permit them recover their legal fees from the citizen plaintiff.  The ACLU’s attempt to recover legal fees would have discouraged the citizen complaint from going forward as it would  have a chilling effect on the First Amendment according to Orfanedes who pointed out that  the ACLU who has long been a defender of First Amendment and by  taking this action would have a chilling impact on a citizens’ right to oppose a government policy.  At issue is LAPD’s Special Order 7 that would prevent police officers from impounding the cars of illegal aliens who are driving without a license. and in the case contends that the City does not have the authority to enact  Special Order 7 to prevent police from impounding the cars of illegal drivers.  According saying that State Law requires that all traffic laws be uniform throughout the state to avoid  confusion where block to block the differing traffic rules from one city to another.  At the end of the video viewers are asked  to participate in a survey regarding the policy and the ACLU attempt to collect legal fees from a citizen challenging the Special Order 7.   Please participate in the survey by going to

  1. State law encourages citizens to file lawsuits against unfair government policies. In this case the ACLU was asking to intervene so that citizens would be forced to pay their legal fees? do you think this would deter citizens from challenging unfair laws? YES or NO?
  2. Do you think that we need laws that protect special classes for people rather than equal protection for all? YES or NO?
  3. The ACLU has always been an advocate for the First Amendment and free speech do you think their actions here will diminish their credibility? YES or NO?


1)  Original Complaint filed by Police Protective League  107165310-Sturgeon-v-City-of-Los-Angeles-Complaint and joined by Sturgeon vs City of Los Angeles BV484190
2) Judicial Watch, for Sturgeon objected  toACLU intervention/demand for legal fees:
3)  ACLU Reply

10 comments to “ACLU Loses Fight To Silence Dissent #VB115”

  1. Daniel Gottlieb | October 1, 2012 | Permalink Reply

    The ACLU’s retreat from its basic mission is mirrored by other fine organizations abandoning their basic missions. For example, the Sierra Club. The Sierra Club graded Coast Commissions’ Commissioner Gloria Sanchez as the worst commissioner for the Coast. Sanchez was the only commissioner who voted in favor of the preservation of Marina del Rey. How did the Sierra Club come up with such an inappropriate statement. Apparently they let the Director of the Coastal Commission Lester, report on the Commissioners. So what does that say about the CCC, whose only purpose is to protect the California Coast from miss use and over development? All the other environmental groups supported the preservation of MdR. There are many other examples of this, but no space.

  2. George Buzzetti | October 1, 2012 | Permalink Reply

    This is what happens when your financiers are those you are supposed to be watching. Almost all civil rights and other groups in the U.S. are now financed by corporations, foundations or wealthy individuals to a large part. If your benefactor does not like the policy decision you make your funding will be cut off and then you do not have a nice job, travel expenses, meals, hotels and such. Since Citizens United by our totally corrupt Supreme Court and the revelations by Richard Fine with the help of Full Disclosure and Leslie Dutton money is all there is to run anything now in general. We are now a lawless country. If you have money you can do almost anything you want including not paying taxes as you pay the lawmakers a pittance for your exemption. We are not now for a long time a country of equitable law or opportunity. This must change.

    Thank you Full Disclosure for being a “Real Free Press.”

  3. aktien | October 2, 2012 | Permalink Reply

    Nice to see the judge reverse his opinion and good that you covered this story, Leslie. There are other laws in CA that inhibit citizens from pursuing their rights as well. Most of these laws protect the state, local governments and their leaders. We encountered such a law in a civili rights case against a notorious school district. Some of our claims triggered a law that made it possible for the school district to recover legal fees and costs. Knowing the district’s win-at-any-cost attitude and history of deceit (including lying under oath), this shift of risk to ordinary citizens became too high, giving these notoriously corrupt scoundrels the leverage they needed to force a low-ball settlement. It was unfair and it let these fraudulent abusers off the hook. It’s good to see some push back against such unfairness in this case. Thanks for the report.

  4. clm | October 3, 2012 | Permalink Reply


  5. John King | October 3, 2012 | Permalink Reply

    I did not like Ms. Dutton using the term “Majority” in this interview for a synonym for White. There has been no White majority in California for more than a decade. I was also shocked going to the website to see some propaganda about “Black Genocide” The black race is growing all over the world. It is the White Race that is decreasing in all nominally “white” countries. In fact the White birth rate in the US is currently 1.83, far below the replacement rate of 2.1. ASIA FOR THE ASIANS, AFRICA FOR THE AFRICANS, WHITE COUNTRIES FOR EVERYBODY!

    Everybody says there is this RACE problem. Everybody says this RACE problem will be solved when the third world pours into EVERY white country and ONLY into white countries.

    The Netherlands and Belgium are just as crowded as Japan or Taiwan, but nobody says Japan or Taiwan will solve this RACE problem by bringing in millions of third worlders and quote assimilating unquote with them.

    Everybody says the final solution to this RACE problem is for EVERY white country and ONLY white countries to “assimilate,” i.e., intermarry, with all those non-whites.

    What if I said there was this RACE problem and this RACE problem would be solved only if hundreds of millions of non-blacks were brought into EVERY black country and ONLY into black countries?

    How long would it take anyone to realize I’m not talking about a RACE problem. I am talking about the final solution to the BLACK problem?

    And how long would it take any sane black man to notice this and what kind of psycho black man wouldn’t object to this?

    But if I tell that obvious truth about the ongoing program of genocide against my race, the white race, Liberals and respectable conservatives agree that I am a naziwhowantstokillsixmillionjews.

    They say they are anti-racist. What they are is anti-white.

    Anti-racist is a code word for anti-white

    • Leslie Dutton | October 4, 2012 | Permalink Reply

      The video was clear the ACLU had stated in their court papers they are representing only illegal aliens who do not have drivers licenses. The “majority” referred to in the video were all the other races who are driving without drivers licenses. It is quite a stretch of the imagination to claim that the intent and use of the word “majority” was to describe the “white” race especially when the author, by his own admission, states “There has been no White majority”. The whole discussion in this video is not about race, but the ACLU conflict with the First Amendment and their intent to silence dissent from Americans who are in their homeland legally. And by the way, the dissident Americans happen to be all other races combined together and who make up the “majority” in this country.

  6. Your news article is clear the ACLU no longer represents the majority of Americans it’s only concerned with special interest and now they want attorneys fees for going and rule of law. I agree with Paul Orfanedes at judicial watch the ACLU is a rogue organization that is out of touch with its mandate, his constitutional bylaws and its corporate charter. This blatant attempt to undermine the Constitution and the legislative affairs of any state is an absolute fraud. I have a similar case in Washington DC where the victim is being terrorized both in Washington DC and New Jersey. Where volunteer lawyers and court appointed CPS workers/insiders. Have worked outside their constitutional limits to conspired to commit fraud on the court numerous times to destroy this family at present I highlighted her [email protected] programs 474,475, and 476. Highlight how the DC volunteer lawyers program is doing the exact same thing. But they want their victims to pay for their legal expenses for committing fraud on the courts, conspiracy to obstruct justice, mail fraud and extortion against our good citizens. Maybe can help some of our American citizens who are victimized by court corruption and judges who failed to obey their oath of office under five USC 2902-2907. Surely the FBI won’t do it, the Justice Department won’t do it,, even though they are compelled to help citizens under 18 USC 1512-1513. Leslie you have done an excellent job as always my hat is off to you as being a courageous journalist and advocate for the peoples of these United States. Please keep up the good work this nation need you.
    George McDermott current candidate for the United States Congress Maryland’s fourth Congressional District.

  7. Bill Otinger | December 1, 2012 | Permalink Reply

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  8. Pat Hamer | December 9, 2012 | Permalink Reply

    Well, I think the most important right in the first amendment is the right to redress a grievance, of those denied named and inferred rights. The ACLU is an organization just like FDN. FDN don’t print stories about what I want them to print, so I don’t get the hoopla here. I don’t support the ACLU, and I think they are only lobbying by enfluence peddling to judges, to overlook Bogan v. Scott-Harris and Alden v. Maine, both SCOTUS in 1998 and 1999, respective, where they said, “even if corrupt…the law will not tolerate “redress…(THe First Amendment). They said it.

    So the ACLU goes to the courts and panders with these judges to overlook what they are denying non fringe citizens, and grant them special rights under “sovereign decree” given to Judges and Officials by Alden v. Maine, see UC Irvine Dean of Law Erwin Chemerinsky disortation The Hypocrisy of Alden v. Maine: Judicial Review, Sovereign Immunity and the Rehnquist Court”

    When you finally become aware that corruption is a constitutional right that supersedes individual right to life, liberty, and property, then you will know where to begin to solve the solution that simply lies dormant to correct the problem.

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